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		<title>Rock Paper Scissors for Three Players</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the summer of 2009, if not to say, a long long time ago, Sharon Twiss asked on twitter: &#8220;can groups of more than two use Rock-Paper-Scissors?&#8221;
In case you&#8217;re not familiar with the game,  Rock, paper, scissors (wikipedia link)  is played by two people. &#8220;Rock beats scissors, scissors beats paper, and paper beats rock&#8221;.
A basic [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the summer of 2009, if not to say, a long long time ago, Sharon Twiss asked on twitter: &#8220;<a href="http://twitter.com/sharontwiss/status/3389538260">can groups of more than two use Rock-Paper-Scissors?</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>In case you&#8217;re not familiar with the game,  Rock, paper, scissors (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock-paper-scissors">wikipedia link</a>)  is played by two people. &#8220;Rock beats scissors, scissors beats paper, and paper beats rock&#8221;.</p>
<h2>A basic way to play the game with more than two people</h2>
<p>It took me quite a while to find this <a href="http://www.indopedia.org/Rock,_Paper,_Scissors.html#Number_of_players">article about Rock, Paper, Scissors</a> at <em>indo</em>pedia.org, which explains how the game can be played by more than two:</p>
<blockquote><p>The game is easily adaptable to more than just two players. This variant works remarkably well, even for large groups. The rules are the same, with the following exceptions:</p>
<ul>
<li> If all three weapon types are played, or only one type of weapon is played, the round is considered to be a draw. A new round begins.</li>
<li> If there are only two different weapon types showing between all of the players, then <strong>all</strong> of the players showing the losing weapon are eliminated.</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<h2>A different way for three players</h2>
<p>Let us add another &#8220;weapon&#8221;, called <em>Lizard</em>, like this:</p>
<div id="attachment_399" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 266px"><a href="http://stephan.sugarmotor.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/weapons-and-sequence-for-3-player-r-p-s.png"><img class="size-full wp-image-399" title="weapons-and-sequence-for-3-player-r-p-s" src="http://stephan.sugarmotor.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/weapons-and-sequence-for-3-player-r-p-s.png" alt="Weapons and winning sequence for 3 player Rock Paper Scissors" width="256" height="227" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Weapons and winning sequence for 3 Player Rock Paper Scissors</p></div>
<p>(I based the illustration image on another one from wikipedia, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pierre_ciseaux_feuille_l%C3%A9zard_spock.svg">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pierre_ciseaux_feuille_l%C3%A9zard_spock.svg</a> by <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nojhan">Nojhan</a> )</p>
<p>The game for three players is played like the original version, with this order</p>
<ul>
<li>Lizard beats Scissors</li>
<li>Scissors beats Paper</li>
<li>Paper beats Rock</li>
<li>Rock beats Lizard</li>
</ul>
<p>Count to three, and on three, each player chooses one of the weapons with their hand.</p>
<h2>How to determine the winner with the extra weapon?</h2>
<p>What you do is look at the sequence of weapons chosen. For example, here</p>
<div id="attachment_401" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 266px"><a href="http://stephan.sugarmotor.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/3-player-Rock_paper_scissors-indicate1.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-401" title="3-player-Rock_paper_scissors-indicate" src="http://stephan.sugarmotor.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/3-player-Rock_paper_scissors-indicate1.jpg" alt="Blue player: Lizard, Yellow player: Scissors, Purple Player: Paper" width="256" height="227" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Player Blue: Lizard, Player Yellow: Scissors, Player Purple: Paper</p></div>
<p>Player Blue chose <em>Lizard, </em>Player Yellow chose <em>Scissors</em>, and Player Purple chose Paper. <em>Lizard</em> beats <em>Scissors</em>, <em>Scissors</em> beats <em>Paper</em>. So you would say Player Blue, who chose <em>Lizard</em>, won, right?</p>
<p>What to do when two players choose the same weapon? Let&#8217;s say like this:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">
<div id="attachment_402" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 266px"><a title="Blue and Yellow player: Lizard, Purple Player: Paper" href="http://stephan.sugarmotor.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/3-player-Rock_paper_scissors-2-same.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-402 " title="3-player-Rock_paper_scissors-2-same" src="http://stephan.sugarmotor.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/3-player-Rock_paper_scissors-2-same.jpg" alt="Blue and Yellow player: Lizard, Purple Player: Paper" width="256" height="227" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Player Blue and Player Yellow: Scissors, Player Purple: Paper</p></div>
<p>Both Player Blue and Player Yellow chose <em>Scissors</em>, Player Purple chose <em>Paper</em>. <em>Scissors</em> beats <em>Paper</em>. There are two winners, so now Player Blue and Player Yellow play a round of 2-player Rock-Paper-Scissors to determine the winner.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at this case,</p>
<div id="attachment_403" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 266px"><a href="http://stephan.sugarmotor.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/3-player-Rock_paper_scissors-2-same-2.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-403" title="3-player-Rock_paper_scissors-2-same-2" src="http://stephan.sugarmotor.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/3-player-Rock_paper_scissors-2-same-2.jpg" alt="Blue and Purple player: Paper, Yellow Player: Scissors" width="256" height="227" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Player Blue and Player Purple: Paper, Player Yellow: Scissors</p></div>
<p>both Player Blue and Player Purple chose Paper, and Player Yellow chose Scissors. <em>Scissors</em> beats <em>Paper</em>, so Player Yellow won. No need for a 2-player round.</p>
<p>Obviously, if all players choose the same weapon, then it is a draw, and the game starts from the top.</p>
<h2>Two different versions of this game</h2>
<p>Now we come to a case that has no equivalent in the 2-player version:</p>
<div id="attachment_405" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 266px"><a href="http://stephan.sugarmotor.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/3-player-Rock_paper_scissors-2-same-draw.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-405" title="3-player-Rock_paper_scissors-2-same-draw" src="http://stephan.sugarmotor.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/3-player-Rock_paper_scissors-2-same-draw.jpg" alt="Player Blue and Player Yellow: Lizard, Player Purple: Paper" width="256" height="227" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Player Blue and Player Yellow: Lizard, Player Purple: Paper</p></div>
<p>Two player chose the same weapon, and the other player chose a weapon that neither beats the other weapon directly, or is beaten by it. (They are opposite in the circle).</p>
<p>Here I see two options. Either this is declared a draw, or the player who chose the single weapon is declared the winner. I think time will tell which is the better choice.</p>
<h2>Advantage</h2>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to explain the advantage of adding another weapon in a separate post. Stay tuned!</p>
<h2>Thanks</h2>
<p>Thanks go to my friends Sara and Gerry who played this game with me yesterday. Sara won.</p>
<h2>License</h2>
<p>All illustrations licensed under <a rel="nofollow" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/deed.en">Attribution-Share Alike 2.5 Generic</a></p>
<h2>rpsmatch.com</h2>
<p>Put a website together that allows you to play the game over the Internet: <a title="rpsmatch.com" href="http://rpsmatch.com">rpsmatch.com</a>. You can either play with one (standard &#8220;Rock, Paper, Scissors&#8221;), or two other players (&#8220;Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard&#8221;). Operated by my company, <a href="http://buckmaster.ca">The Buckmaster Institute, Inc.</a></p>
<p>// This probably still needs some editing, will keep updating //</p>
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		<title>buying stuff</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Got the Mountain Equipment Co-op (MEC) catalog in the mail today (actually one of my roommates).
The catalogue has a funny sidebar on one page about how a couple won a prize in the MEC 2008 video competition. They sent over a $1,000 gift card, and discovered that the winners are more than half-way through a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got the <a href="http://mec.ca">Mountain Equipment Co-op</a> (MEC) catalog in the mail today (actually one of my roommates).</p>
<p>The catalogue has a funny sidebar on one page about how a couple won a prize in the MEC 2008 video competition. They sent over a $1,000 gift card, and discovered that the winners are more than half-way through a <strong>one year project of</strong> <strong>not buying any &#8220;stuff&#8221;</strong>.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><span style="font-family: Arial; color: #663300;">&#8220;The goal is zero landfill waste. For one year we will not buy any material goods. We will buy only consumables, and everything we buy must come in recyclable or compostable packaging.&#8221; </span></strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Their <a href="http://cleanbin.wordpress.com">clean bin blog</a> explains how they got into this and also that they are making a video about the year.</p>
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		<title>letter puzzle solution</title>
		<link>http://stephan.sugarmotor.org/2009/01/letter-puzzle-solution/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 05:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the solution to the  January 13 puzzle please visit

this page


(In case of &#8220;broken link&#8221;, a copy is at the Internet Archive)
It was solved within a few hours by the rec.puzzle newsgroupÂ  crowd.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the solution to the <abbr class="published" title="2009-01-14T05:37:21Z"><span class="posted_date" title="Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:37:21 PST"><a href="http://stephan.sugarmotor.org/2009/01/13/a-challenge/"> January 13 puzzle</a> please visit</span></abbr></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://tinyurl.com/342l8f">this page<br />
</a></li>
</ul>
<p>(In case of &#8220;broken link&#8221;, a copy is at the <a href="http://preview.tinyurl.com/az5vxo">Internet Archive</a>)</p>
<p>It was solved within a few hours by the <a href="http://preview.tinyurl.com/ajou5x">rec.puzzle</a> newsgroupÂ  crowd.</p>
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		<title>enters: another blog</title>
		<link>http://stephan.sugarmotor.org/2008/12/enters_another_blog/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am Stephan Wehner, a mathematician and software developer, live with my partner Tamara in Vancouver, Canada, and devote most of my free time to my two daughters Astrid and Isabella.
This blog is meant firstly, to consolidate my previous home page, which became quite scattered over the years. Then also, the WordPress blogging software makes [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am <a href="../">Stephan Wehner</a>, a mathematician and software developer, live with my partner Tamara in Vancouver, Canada, and devote most of my free time to my two daughters <a href="http://astrid.sugarmotor.org/">Astrid</a> and <a href="http://isabella.sugarmotor.org/">Isabella</a>.</p>
<p>This blog is meant firstly, to consolidate my previous home page, which became quite scattered over the years. Then also, the <a href="http://wordpress.org">WordPress</a> blogging software makes it a lot easier toÂ  maintain a website.Â  Some ordinary blog-articles may appear in the future, but probably not frequently or regularly.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Stephan</p>
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